Posts by cha ching

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"You owe Jehovah humility and HONESTY" - an email from a JW

hey forum goers.

i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.

bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.

cha ching

How about: "woe! Thanks for asking how my son is doing! Next time you want to tell someone how righteous you are, write someone else!"

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Two big points that need to be emphasized in JDub pedophile discussions

by Sour Grapes in

i love watching the jw cart crashers on youtube and how the zombie, brain dead, we are so much better than you jdubs react.

when they do talk a little about the two witness rule they will mention the need for proof and the testimony of the poor child is just not enough to take the inquiry any further.. the reason for calling the police is immediately is that dna can be gathered from the poor victim.

this evidence is the second witness used for prosecution.

cha ching

Very true, SG, pedophilia is a crime, and police handle crime.

In our hall, when a Ped returned from prison (most of the congregation had no clue) it was only after a real estate agent saw him on Megan's list did anyone know. She was so mad. BUT, her husband, I believe, was an elder.

You are correct.. Kids outside of the religion ate ALSO put in danger.

WT has a "me first" attitude.

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News from Australia: Tasmania Anglicans to sell property for redress

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/tas-anglicans-to-sell-property-for-redress/news-story/f56eb0caabc16212229c3b0d6d940e3c.

tas anglicans to sell property for redress.

survivors of child sexual abuse in tasmania will get a payout after the anglican diocese announced the sale of more than 120 churches, halls and houses.. kaitlyn offer - australian associated press april 22, 2018 2:30pm.

cha ching

120 churches, hall's and houses! To get 8 million?!?!

What will WT have to sell? The hatchet will have to fall on all.

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Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

april 12, 2018. .

cha ching

Watchtower is a very well tuned "LEGAL" corporation.... It answers questions, and directs it's 'members' / clients to respond to questions in a very "I am not going to tell you anything more than you ask me, and if you don't ask the right question, I am not going to help you out" manner.

When I went to see the Candice Conti appeal trial, the judge asked Jim McCabe "Who puts the field service lists on the 'bulletin' board for all to see and use?"

Now, the point the judge was trying to get at was: Do elders make the list? Did elders assign Candice to work with Jonathan Kendrick? If they DID assign her to work with them, and they knew about it, then ....

However, Jim McCabe (WT lawyer) answered the judge directly and sneakily, basically saying: 'Anyone can put it on the board, even a little kid can pin it up on the board, people walk by that board all the time'

Is that "true"? .... TECHNICALLY, yes (the kid would get in trouble, and most kids/ women/ teenagers do nothing to that board) But he did not volunteer that elders make the list, and assign book study/ field service groups, and I don't believe he was asked a further question about it.

Loesch: All of us consider him to be a part of the "Watchtower, Bible and Tract Society", we would say he has influence, right? After all, he is a 'GB' ... However, WT is structured with many corporations, many names, many positions so that IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, or if you do not ask the EXACT question, the EXACT way, you will get no help from them. The lawyers know this, and helped Loesch reply. He could/would have been subpoenaed if he did not answer this correctly. What Loesch said was "technically correct"

Yes, the WT knows EXACTLY what it is doing.

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British Psychological Society Research Digest Article: What are the psychological effects of losing your religion

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

https://digest.bps.org.uk/2018/04/06/what-are-the-psychological-effects-of-losing-your-religion/amp/.

what are the psychological effects of losing your religion?.

bps research digest.

cha ching

Perhaps because he used students in his study, and maybe students are of a certain mindset "just starting on their life journey" and "young" haha, and ALSO that the Protestant faith is not that 'prohibitive' (unlike JWville) that it only affected them in a way that anything else would... Perhaps freeing them from having to think of "what if I do something wrong" or "what if God doesn't like me".... but I am not sure most "other" religions realllllly think about that.

True? not true? They certainly did not have the strain of worrying about going to hell when they die.

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Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

april 12, 2018. .

cha ching

It sounds as if the tide is turning in the courtroom. These lawyers have helped the obvious to be seen:

WT is not the police. WT is not the court system. WT is not the law.

Stop letting them think they are, and make them do what any concerned, loving, caring person must do. Report the crime to the police.

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JW's are slaves- but not in a good way

by joey jojo in

i was reading about the american slave trade again recently.

as anyone who has read anything about the subject knows, it makes for very uncomfortable reading.

every time i read the history, i'm left with a sense of outrage and seething anger at the pure inhumanity and injustice of what life must have been like for those people.

cha ching

Haha! Good one, JWFacts! "Faithful and Discreet Slave Owners!"

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Beard update

by Coded Logic in

so it's been over a month since i decided to grow a beard.

the mustache and chin have come in fuller than i ever imagined - while the cheeks leave me wondering if i'll ever grow enough hair to make it not look so wildly unkept and patchy (if anyone has any advice here it'd be much appreciated).

but in the mean time i'll give it another month and see how it goes.. .

cha ching

Not every face is the same, yours looks quite nice! Enjoy it anyway you like! You are free!

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Do any of the JWs go out door to door with a territory any more?

by Spiral in

i actually had a neighbor ask me that the other day (she knows i'm an "ex" jw) and i didn't really know the answer.

i know there's a bit of cart witnessing going on (small town) and a lot of driving around to return visits.. but are they actually doing territory, not-at-homes, all of that?

the neighbor said that eight years ago, when she bought her house, the jws were by "all the time".

cha ching

My sister lives in a neighborhood where she sees the Spanish congregation going door to door quite regularly, and although she has not been to a meeting in over 5 years, an ex-JW "friend" (the kind that doesn't pay you back) still leaves invitations and an occasional magazine on her front door step.... (to get her time started)

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Translation Please

by jwundubbed in

jw
friends

i hate asking stupid or obvious questions, but i missed something somewhere along the line.

what is pimi and pomi?

did i even get the acronyms correct?

cha ching

Haha! thanks for asking, jwundubbed, (and for all of you that answered) we had a great laugh reading these!